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Welcome to the Light Up your Business podcast, the show where we dive deep into the world of small businesses. I'm your host, Tammy Hershberger, and each episode will bring you inspiring stories, expert insights and practical tips to help your small business thrive. Whether you're an entrepreneur just starting out or a seasoned business owner, this podcast is your go-to source for success in the small business world. Let's get started to source for success in the small business world. Let's get started. Hi everyone, I want to welcome you back to another episode of Bloody Pure Business Podcast. Today I have two special guests. One is Evangelist Dennis Gingrich and his brother, Jonas Gingrich. Welcome them onto the podcast. How are you guys today?
Dennis Gingerich:Phenomenal couldn't be better.
Tammy Hershberger:Very excited for this weekend's revival. Yeah, that's why we're here today. So we want to talk about um a revival that dennis is putting on this weekend. Dennis, tell us about it yeah.
Dennis Gingerich:So this weekend friday, saturday and sunday we're doing three days of revival, because we did a crusade here, uh, about two months ago, and we're back. We want to impart to the people. We want to go deeper than just salvation and we're starting. We want to impart to the people, we want to go deeper than just salvation and we're starting Friday night actually tonight, at 7 pm and we're going to have free food so people that come off of work, so they can come straight there, eat and then be a part of it. There's going to be great preaching, baptisms in the Holy Ghost, healings miracles. So if you also have a backslidden family member or a backslidden friend, bring them here because they're guaranteed to get saved and get their life changed around in the presence of God, because you can't be where the Holy Ghost is and not get your life changed around. So it's going to be powerful. Saturday it's going to be 10 am and 7 p am and 7 pm, and also sunday, 10 am and 7 pm.
Dennis Gingerich:So where is that at, if they want to come to that it's at the the courtyard by marriott hotel over on horizon drive, so the address is 765 horizon drive, grant junction, colorado, 81506.
Tammy Hershberger:Yeah, so make sure you come on out. Um, today we're going to talk about the love of god Horizon Drive, grant Junction, colorado, 81506. Yeah, so make sure you come on out. Today we're going to talk about the love of God and kind of who he is and why you need to know Him. If you don't, so let's just kind of jump right in if you boys are ready, yes, okay. So tell me, dennis, how would you describe God's love to someone who has never experienced it?
Dennis Gingerich:I mean John 3, 16, for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him would not perish but have everlasting life. I don't know why so many people, especially in America they, have this twisted view that if God's so good, how come all the bad things are going on? Well, there's a scripture in John 10, 10 that says it's so good, how come all the bad things are going on? Well, there's a scripture in John 10, 10 that says it's the thief, the devil, that comes to steal, to kill and to destroy. But Jesus said I have come to give you life and to give it more abundantly.
Dennis Gingerich:The devil is the God of this world and not God. It's because of Adam and Eve sinned and then Satan took charge of the earth. But God is an all-loving God. He cares for you. Every good and every perfect thing comes from God and every bad thing comes from the devil. I want you to remember that, because if you ever struggle with the love of god, remember god is good, the devil is bad. So blame the devil the next time something bad happens to you yeah, I was just learning in my.
Tammy Hershberger:I was telling you earlier I'm in third week of charis bible school, so I'm like a newbie baby here. But it was interesting to learn that because the world makes the devil such a scary guy right and movies and all that stuff, and it was telling us how the only power the devil has is deceit, lies, and that's all he has. He doesn't even have a human body. He's stuck in a serpent, he's a snake, he's on the ground, and so he has to use those lies through people to get you to believe his lies. And if you don't believe his lies, then you're going to be, you're going to be walking in the good stuff, because God is truth, right, god is light, and so I thought that was really cool because I was like, yeah, I used to think the devil's got all this power. He has none. He can lie to you, that's it. But that's what you get in God's word, and then you get the truth.
Dennis Gingerich:Yeah, cause the devil's under your feet. It's just like a snake. You step on his head and you crush it. Jesus did that 2000 years ago. So now, if you, I want you to get this picture of the devil. When Jesus died on the cross and he went into the grave, he literally went down to hell and he defeated Satan. He crushed his skull. So now Satan has this big dim in his skull and he's defeated. And then Jesus stripped him of the keys of death, hell and the grave. So he's a loser, a lunatic. All he can do is try and get into your mind and tell you things and then you act it out, because he can't do it. He has no creative power, he's dumb, he's corrupt, he's a lunatic. But God loves you.
Tammy Hershberger:Absolutely. Why do you think so many people struggle to believe that God truly loves them?
Dennis Gingerich:I think it's just because the world has formed this belief and the devil has done a phenomenal job to get into the world and get into many Christians' minds that God is doing the bad things, that God is judging the people, but he isn't. He did judge people in the Old Testament, but he's not doing that in the New Testament. It's because the devil is in the world and there are end time things that are going to happen, but it's not because of God, it's because of the corrupt world. The Bible says in Matthew 24 that there's going to be wars and rumors of war that we're going to see before we get raptured out of here. So it's no new thing, but it's not God.
Dennis Gingerich:So when you understand that it's the devil who's making these things happen, the corrupt things, but God loves you, he literally sent his only son to die for you to pay the price once and for all. So what else do you want him to do? You want him to send another son? He's not going to do it. It's paid for. All you have to do is reach out to God and receive it.
Tammy Hershberger:Think about sorry to interrupt you. Think about I mean, I'm not a parent, I know you are, but I think about that and I'm like I don't, other than maybe my husband. There's not a lot of people I would die for or I'm not taking a beating for anybody. You did it you. You take your beating right. He did that for you. And so when you don't love him, when you don't spend time with him, when you don't want nothing to do with him, you're dishonoring, dishonoring the sacrifice that he made for you throughout giving his son on the cross right, which, if you know anything about the story of that, it's a horrific beating he took for us and he didn't deserve any of it. I just think, in the natural, I'm like I wouldn't do that for most people and he did it for us, so don't dishonor him.
Tammy Hershberger:And then the love I mean you think about we were just talking about that so human love, you know, the natural love that we give is like when you do something, if you do this, I will love you. When you buy me something, I will love you. If you talk nice to me, I will love you, right, but when you hurt my feelings, I'm out. Or if you do this, I'm leaving. And that is not the god love, right, because god's love is everlasting. Um, it says here in limitations because of the lord's great love, we are not consumed, for his compassions never fail. They are new every morning. Great in your faithfulness. And I think about that. As humans, we get mad each other. My husband, john, makes me mad and I'm like, annoyed with him the next morning. God doesn't start annoyed with us.
Dennis Gingerich:He's like but, son, I'm here, daughter, I'm here, right right, because he, literally before anybody, he died for the world. If you understand what the world means in the bible, it's's all the sinners, the people that have not come in the covenant with Christ. So he paid for he loved you before you ever loved him. The Bible says in Ephesians that he knew you before the foundations of the world. Like God loved you, jesus was in heaven before he ever came to the earth. He would have had to do nothing, but he would have never got to sit at the right hand of the father. But he, when Adam and Eve sinned, he told the father I will go down to the earth, I will give my life for the people for their sin. But it's still, even though he's done, that people have to receive it. But it's still, even though he's done, that people have to receive it, still many people are going to hell.
Dennis Gingerich:The Bible, even if you look at, like the eschatology, like when the rapture happens, almost 50% of the people on this planet are going to go to hell, which is sad. And that's why we're doing these revival meetings. That's why we're doing crusades is to bring the people in these revival meetings. That's why we're doing crusades is to bring the people in, because the bible also says that the bible has to be preached and witnessed to to every part of the earth, to all nations, and then the end will come. As, as you see, in the world today, we're moving so quickly with technology, with nuclear wars, to the rapture, and that's why we want to get as many people saved and believing in god so that they can go up in the rapture with us and they don't have to stay down here during the seven years of tribulation and even after that and experience the antichrist hell on earth and all that.
Tammy Hershberger:but yeah, so we would love to have you at the revival meetings yeah, and this will be just a little taste of what you're going to get there. I mean, dennis gets so fired up and you know, I just kind of wanted to show my audience like if you're in this area you've got to tune into this, and then I'm are you gonna um air that? Is it gonna be recorded at all to watch later?
Dennis Gingerich:I'm gonna record it yeah okay.
Tammy Hershberger:So maybe we can get it out there later for people to see. Because, yeah, I am telling you, I hear people, I talk to people, especially my coaching program and they just they think they're so far lost, like I've just done so much that god doesn't love me anymore or I messed up so much. But I want to tell them you're lit, you're, you're looking at it from a human love. Like, yeah, for some of your friends maybe you messed up too much and they can't be your friend anymore. But god does not say that. It actually says in romans 5 8. But god demonstrates his own love for us in this. While we were still sinners, christ died for us, like it doesn't matter that you're sinning, let's change that. Let's change it today. It matters going forward, but your past does not disqualify you from god's love right because so even there's.
Dennis Gingerich:There's people out there that have done crazy things, like I come from. We had a lot of challenges in my family because we grew up Amish and we had shotguns in each other's faces, almost killed each other, almost committed suicide, all kinds of stuff. But there's people that have experienced way worse. But, no matter what you've experienced, god still loves you, he's still. He's always there. All you have to do is say God, here I am, I want you, I want to, I repent of my sin, I want you to be my Lord and Savior, I receive you. And God is there. His love is right there. You never have to. You can't wander too far. Wherever you're at, your life can change today.
Tammy Hershberger:I always picture it kind of like again, I'm not a parent. But if my son did something, really murdered someone or whatever, as a parent you're going to always love that child. Now, you're not going to like what they just did, right? But I don't think you're going to say you're damned to hell, I never want to talk to you again. You're going to love that child, am I right? Jonas, you're a dad. Is that kind of accurate?
Jonas Gingerich:Absolutely. You want to bring them back into being part of the family.
Tammy Hershberger:Show them love.
Jonas Gingerich:Show them that you've forgiven them.
Tammy Hershberger:Yeah, and so if you go to Ephes, love for us, god, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with christ even when we were dead in transgressions, like we're alive in him because of what he's doing. It is not too far gone. If you're watching this, you are not too far gone. It almost makes me emotional because I'm like. These people are believing lies of the enemy because they think they can't come back.
Dennis Gingerich:They've gone too far and it's not true yeah, and it's like people saying, oh, that's what earthly fathers do. But how much more does our heavenly father love you and how much more does he want? When you get off course, it's not the end of the world. When you have a GPS, you get off course, redirect, redirect. Well, that's what God does. He doesn't like you when you get off course. He doesn't like it, but he loves you and therefore he's. But he loves you and therefore he's constantly convicting you hey, get back on course. This is the way I love you. He doesn't leave you nor forsake you.
Dennis Gingerich:People leave God, people forsake God, but he never does. It's like you have a covenant, a contract with somebody, even in business or ministry. You might never forsake it, you might never compromise it, but if your partner does, there's nothing you can. You can't keep it the same because there's two, two individuals. And that's the same way with your relationship with God. You have to do your part. God is always there, god is always faithful, he never fails. But you have to come into covenant with God. You have to do your part and keep the relationship, and that means also spending time in God's word, praying, fellowshipping with God.
Tammy Hershberger:Yeah, I think on that side I kind of had these revelations since I started Bible school of like, oh, I go to church on Sunday and I read my chapter a day and I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. And then I got my butt handed to me the last couple of years because I'm just doing everything in my own strength. And the Lord made it two things very clear to me that like, yeah, I'm not a bad person, I'm not murdering people, I try not to rip people off. I'm a good person, but that doesn't mean that I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. And so he very clearly made it clear to me that one, you're not giving me your full heart.
Tammy Hershberger:And for me, long story short, I don't. I didn't have the most amazing dad. He wasn't around growing up. He's still not really around, and so, anyway, I don't trust my father. So I'm like I don't trust this guy up here because he's going to be like my earthly father, because we relate so much to our earthly world, right, and so I'm like I don't trust that you're going to take care of me. I'm going to do it myself because you will leave, you're going to get mad at me, whatever.
Tammy Hershberger:And so then I got this revelation of like you have to give. He literally said to me you have to give me your heart. You don't, you don't give it to me, you don't trust it to me. It's same thing my finances. I'm always trying to do it myself and it wears me out because I can't do it all the time. And so I think it's so good, like just getting in the word, learning what the word says for yourself, seeing that truth, because not some people, there's people out there that will pervert things and they maybe twist the word to what they want it to be. We're not talking religion, we're talking you get in the word, you listen to pastors that are anointed and good pastors, and I'm sure you can help lead to some. Obviously, this one's a great one right here, he's an evangelist. But what's your thoughts on? Like, how else can they get that? Because some people don't. What does that even mean? Getting the word? Can you explain that to them?
Dennis Gingerich:I mean getting in the word is literally reading the bible. People are like oh, I haven't gotten a word from god. This, my friend, is thousands, if not millions of words right here, and it's the word of god. If you ever want the Word of God, go reach your Bible, because there's a scripture. Because we grew up Amish Tammy didn't, but her husband did so I want to just point that out. But they will keep you. They tell you to read the word, but it's in German Bibles. They don't speak German, they speak Pennsylvania Dutch, which similar, but it's different. And then they they twist scriptures in church and they want you to just believe that Instead of reading it for yourself.
Dennis Gingerich:And the Bible says in Hosea 4, 6, that my people are destroyed, completely wiped out, for a lack of knowledge. And that's even if you receive christ, even if you have salvation, if you don't have a knowledge of the word of god, because knowledge is power. Whether you want to take it that way, whether you're too spiritual um, people can be make everything so spiritual, not get in the word. Oh, I'm just. Well, there's spiritual aspects to God, but there's also practical aspects. You got to show God that you're serious. You got to get into his word and receive his promises, because the Bible says all his promises are yes and amen. And you can say, oh well, just whatever's in that book, give it to me. It doesn't work that way. What you don't know has the power to kill you. What you don't know, that's in the Bible, in that book you will never have.
Dennis Gingerich:You have to read it, study it, listen to preaching, listen to teachers of the Bible, because you know why Jesus spoke in parables. He said it in his own words. Jesus spoke in parables. He said it in his own words. He did it so that people that don't care, that are just lightly, regard the word. They won't understand it. That's why he spoke in parables so that people dig into it and actually find out what it means. Because the Bible is not just some book. No, it's a holy Bible. It's a holy book inspired by the Holy Ghost. Every chapter in it and it's like gold.
Dennis Gingerich:So when people just want to take a pickaxe and scrape the dust, they're not going to find it. They're not going to find anything. That's why you have to study the word and dig into it, even listen to teachers, but then read the Bible for yourself, because people also get off on the other track, where they just listen to preaching and you can also. When you just listen to people, you can people have things they want in their mind and then they can just just pull that. But when you know to, when you read the the full bible and don't just listen to one preacher because every preacher has a certain thing that they're passionate about and they teach the best, but they might not teach everything they know even like as a minister, you only you preach, maybe teach about 20% of what you know.
Dennis Gingerich:You might preach 10%, because preaching is yelling, teaching is telling. It's basically teaching. You take a little more time, but you have to be exuberant. I don't even know what that word means, but it sounded good. You have to want to know the word and dig it up for yourself. Even if you hear scriptures taught, even what we're sharing today, read them for yourself, because the Bible says the word is alive. So when you read it for yourself, it's going to have what you need for that time and somebody else might read it and it's going to have what they need at that time and it might have a slightly different effect, but it's still the same word of God.
Tammy Hershberger:Yeah, I mean, it's the living word and so like for me, now I pray over it before I start to say Lord, open my eyes to what you want me to see in here. And sometimes it's scripture, specific you know verse jumps out at me. Or sometimes it's a story, and I'm like there was a story, I don't, I think it was in Genesis and I was like the Lord's walk. It was after they got kicked out of the garden of Eden and he was walking around on earth or whatever. I'm like, I don't, I didn't even realize that dude is Jesus. Like that is so cool to me. I mean it sounds so stupid by someone like you because you're much further along than me, but it's wild because I'm like you, like you said, you never know.
Tammy Hershberger:For that day, me, I read a book once and I'm like pass it on, I'm done with it. This is not a book. You do that with you. Just keep reopening it and let God you speak to you through that and let him. Your heart is the yeah, the heart is the soil and you want to make it fertile. And so then when that seed goes in there, it plants in right, Because what's the parables about the different soils there are?
Dennis Gingerich:You mean like the?
Tammy Hershberger:sower soils. Yeah, and the stony and the.
Dennis Gingerich:Yeah, you have the stony, the stony soil, the rocky, and then you have basically the hard soil where the seed just falls on top, and then you have the one where the weeds grow up.
Tammy Hershberger:Choke it out, choke it out, yeah, and so you need to make sure that you stay in the word consistently. Again, one chapter a day was not working for me. Now, I'm not saying maybe that works for you, it didn't work for me because I'm like I don't even know what I'm reading. It's some story about Job. This poor guy is getting his butt kicked, but there's so much more to it than that you know. And then sometimes now I'm reading it and I, you know, I have Bible school and I have to do all this reading and I'm like I can't put the story down.
Tammy Hershberger:I want to ask and I don't know, maybe any one of us can answer this but is there any areas in our life that we have learned god's love in our darkest moments? I mean, I can throw something out, but do?
Jonas Gingerich:you have anything well I'll just share a scripture real quick that came to mind psalms 34, 18 the lord is near to those who have a broken heart and saves such who have a contrite spirit. God is present to help, he is not distant. When it gets dark he actually shows up to restore and rescue. And I've had many stories but I don't know what I want to share. But I remember, before I got saved, I was extremely suicidal, to the point where one night was my wife, was my girlfriend at the time and my oldest son in the bedroom and I had a load of shotgun to my face while they're crying, thinking I'm going to take my life, and I almost did.
Tammy Hershberger:I was that close, but then I got saved and it all turned around yeah, I mean I've seen some of my darkest moments my, my grandmother, who was like a second mom to me. She died. A couple years later my mom died and then I'm just lost. And in my church at the time they were just kept teaching about financials and I was like I am hurting so and I understand they go to heaven and that's. I mean, that's amazing. Thank god for that.
Tammy Hershberger:But in this natural world sometimes you're not ready for them to leave. You know, and in my heart it was broken. And so the lord just kind of met me there. There was times in my window business I got so burned out that I just lost myself completely. And there was times I mean I was never quite thankfully, as far as Jonas was, but I would tell the Lord I don't want to do it anymore. Lord, please come take me Like I don't know that I have the guts to do that, which thankfully I didn't, but it's like I can't get out of because it's too much for me. And he just met me there and he got me through every single day. Now it wasn't next day, I'm perfect, I'm jumping around, but every day.
Dennis Gingerich:He met me in that spot and he got me through it yeah, well, even god turned our whole family around by him getting saved in 2016. Our family was headed down the wrong path. Even though we were Amish, we were religious, but let me tell you this Religion is not a relationship with God. Religion some people that are in religion are living far worse than the people in the world you know, because when you're just in religion, you don't have the love of, you don't know God. You're just following this man-made hell hole that leads to nowhere. It's like doing all these things and then still ending up in hell.
Dennis Gingerich:That's what would have happened with my family if we would have stayed in that. But there's one Thanksgiving day my brother stuck a shotgun in my dad's stomach finger on the trigger so tight, and I was standing right behind my dad. I knew the gun was gonna go off and like that moment, death flashed through my mind, like I was so suicidal at that time and my brother that we would have probably both committed suicide if it would have happened. But as my brother is pulling the trigger because he was so angry, something like flooded his body, which was the grace of god. It was like an angel came out of nowhere and he couldn't pull that trigger anymore. It was so close that if you would have put a hair between his finger and the trigger, the gun would have blown my dad to kingdom come. But God saved us that day and then my brother gets saved in 2016. And I saw, because I was this religious kid, I'm like I'm going to stay Amish my whole life and get to heaven. But then I seen what Jesus did in his life, like when he received them. His life went from partying, doing all kinds of stuff, to now living for the Lord, a clean and holy life, and I'm like I want that. So in 2018, I leave and I'm like, yeah, my family's going to leave, my parents are going to leave, but it didn't seem like it was going to happen.
Dennis Gingerich:But in 2022, in January, I was at church and we were praying and all of a sudden, I had a vision. And I don't get visions. There's people that I think are weird. They have a vision every day. They go to heaven every day. I don't do that. I don't try to just have visions like that. But I saw myself asking my parents to come to church with me and they just said yes. I was expecting rejection even in the vision, and they just said yes and came and that July they got kicked out of the church and I asked them to come to church and literally the next Sunday they were sitting in church with me. That was a story, the darkest over six years. God brought us out. God completely restored us. Now our Thanksgivings are fun, our Christmases are fun, we eat a lot of turkey and it's a grand old time.
Tammy Hershberger:Can I ask you, how is the relationship with your brother and your dad? How is that? Do they get along? Good now, because I imagine if in the natural you stick a shotgun in someone's stomach, that probably is going to ruin the relationship a little bit.
Dennis Gingerich:Yeah, I mean, it probably did at that time.
Tammy Hershberger:But where is it today?
Dennis Gingerich:Now their relationship is great.
Tammy Hershberger:Yes.
Dennis Gingerich:Even for me, because me and my dad struggled but then when I left got saved, um, got restored it. Because here's the thing also is family living in the same house sometimes is rough, like if you have a good family, great. But when you come from a rough family like that, sometimes the quickest way for God to restore is for you to live in two separate houses. I don't mean if you're married, but let's say father, son, if you're 18 years old, go get an apartment and you will see how quickly God will restore, because you won't see every tiny mistake that your father makes, because sometimes it's the hardest the closer we are. But God can restore it all and he will. He did it for my family and there's nobody out there that he can't restore. If he could do it for us, he can do it for you.
Tammy Hershberger:Yeah. So I say, if you're watching and you have a friend who's not talking to you, you got a son you're not talking to. You're not talking to your mother. First off, life is so short. I'm telling you that myself. You've got to make that decision, get with god and then give it to him. I've done that in some relationships that I'm struggling in and I'm like I give it to you, lord, because I can't change this. They're not, they're not getting it, they're not listening to me. Like I give it to you because you'll restore that, because you, you are not so far gone. Your relationship is not that broken, it can be fixed. I mean, look at the story you have. My stuff is so basic and you guys have these like wild stories that are like it's true, it happened, it changed because your dad could have been done. I'm not ever talking to that kid again and that would be the lies of the devil, telling you that nothing can change, he will never change, it will never be better. And then he decided I'm not going to do that.
Dennis Gingerich:I'm going to let. Whatever. His process was Right and the Lord restored that relationship. Yeah, and my parents at 50 years old, 50 years in a religion brainwashed to the core, they got out. You can't. You can't make this stuff out. It's hard enough for me. I left at the age of 16. It was hard enough for me to get rid of the religion in me and actually take God at his word. But 50 years, it takes a miracle. Even within like six months, they were both driving cars. They hadn't driven a car in their life, 50 years old, and now they're driving cars, you know?
Tammy Hershberger:you're never too old, you're never too far right I mean that's a wild start because in my natural mind I think those people are probably never going to leave. They've just known that their whole life.
Dennis Gingerich:But yeah and that's what the devil told us. But people use this saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks. That might be true in the world, but it's not true with god. God can take any situation, no matter if you're 80 years old. God can still turn your situation around. God can still use you to win the loss, to change a person's life, like Billy Graham, the great American evangelist.
Dennis Gingerich:He was Baptist, but the person that got him saved is not known well, but he came to his tent revival and got saved, and then he went to Bible school and became what we know as the great evangelist, billy Graham, who did mass crusades all across America. He literally changed America and now he's buried in the presidential cemetery. He has a whole street named after him. But the guy that led him to the Lord is getting the credit for every single soul that Billy Graham led to the Lord in heaven. You might think it looks like you can't do anything, but even if you're 80 years old and you might lead the next Billy Graham to the Lord, you never know. You keep pushing. You do what God tells you to do and that's all you need to do is whatever God tells you to do.
Tammy Hershberger:So that's a reminder for this revival If you need help, if you know someone hurting, if you have friends that you love and care about. I mean, I invited people that are not even speaking to me, but I'm like, I want you there because I want you to see this why did you become an evangelist? Why did you go to school at RTPI?
Dennis Gingerich:I did it because I had an encounter with God. My brother left in 2016 and he told me one time he's like I want to go into the ministry. I'm like why would you do that? Why would you ever go into the ministry? Because in the Amish, you don't go into the ministry. They vote on whoever's going to be the next preacher and then they stand up there, they rub their hair and almost cry and hee-haw him and it's boring. That's why people are suicidal in the Amish because they're preachers. They scratch their hands. Yeah, it's dumb, dumb and I thought why would you ever want to do become a preacher?
Dennis Gingerich:But then I was at a believers convention and one time one of the speakers is preaching and as he's preaching, he said he said a phrase. It wasn't a completely different light, but this is what I'm trying to get at is the Holy Spirit can preach his own sermon to you. He said how come you're not doing what I'm doing? And when he said that, it was like something hit me in my gut, in my spirit, and I couldn't get rid of it. I'm like you know, whatever, how come I'm not doing what he's doing? I could be. Well, no, I didn't think I could be, but it did not leave me.
Dennis Gingerich:And then a couple of days later I was at church at a men's breakfast, and the topic was what is your purpose in life? Because I was going to be. I was in business, I was doing well, running a roofing company, doing great. I had it all planned out. I'm going to have my own business, I'm going to make millions of dollars, fund the gospel. And then that morning I just couldn't move off of it. What is your purpose in life? Because now I don't feel like roofing is my thing anymore. And on the way home I was just pressing into God and asking him, like, what is my thing anymore? And on the way home I was just pressing into God and asking him like what is my purpose? Am I called to preach? And I just felt that, as strong as the other thing right in my spirit, you're called to full-time ministry, you're called to do what that man is doing, which is evangelism.
Dennis Gingerich:And then after that, I started pursuing Bible school. And then fast forward I'm in one of Evangelist Shaughnessy and Shuttlesworth's revival meetings and that's when the Lord spoke to me specifically to go to his Bible school and go that year. This is in April of 23. So I started in the fall of 23. And I'm graduated. I graduated May 10th, my my original plan was to start Bible school in this year, but now I'm graduated and I'm glad I am, because God doesn't. There's there's. There's too little of a time left on this planet before the rapture, so we're going to hit it hard and win as many people to Christ as we can before the rapture comes.
Tammy Hershberger:Yeah. And so I had a question oh, the love of others. So like how God's love changes us to love others, right, and so like, just really quick, when I was young I was a pessimist. I'm totally an optimist now because I just thought everything was going to suck and everything was half empty and it's all going to deplete and I didn't have enough. And then I look at something as simple as I used to love ACDC, I was like I'm going to do that. And Dan Miller, who we all know, came to our house on time and he's like I would never go to an ACDC concert and I concert. And I was like, oh, you're gross, you're weird. And and I was like I remember literally telling myself I will never not do that. And now today, not that I don't like their music, the words are terrible but I'm like I would not, I have no interest in them.
Tammy Hershberger:God's changed my heart so much that it doesn't interest me anymore and it's just, it's a reminder of how the transformation God makes like I care. I used to be like you don't talk to me. Good, I'm, I'll never talk to you again. Like I was that bitter about stuff and I've changed that so much. I'm like. Love can fix anything. I can forgive you for anything. Let's just keep working on it, right? And so it's just a reminder of what that love is for others and how God changes your heart.
Dennis Gingerich:Yeah, cause love is the greatest gift. It's above faith, it's above hope. So if you are struggling with the love of God, go read 1 Corinthians, chapter 13,. And it'll really read it. Meditate on it, dissect it and it'll change your life. It's the word of God. It'll give you knowledge on the love of God.
Tammy Hershberger:So let's talk about God's grace a little bit. So for people who are just new believers don't know anything. You're like. This is new to me, never heard it. No-transcript. Once you get saved, once you believe in Jesus.
Dennis Gingerich:Yeah, I mean, god's grace is because of what Jesus did on the cross. He paid for your sins. Now there's grace preachers out there that they're like oh, no matter what you do, you're covered by grace, but you're not If you believe that, you're going to hell. It's just that symbol. I'm not going to beat around the bush, I'm just going to tell you because I love you, I don't want you to go to hell. But if you just listen to that garbage and just keep living a sinful life, you're going to go to hell. But when you believe in your heart that Jesus died and rose again from the dead and you confess him with your mouth, that's grace, through faith. Ephesians 2.8. And that's how you are saved. And then grace is the empowerment that God gives you to live a holy life, to live free from sin People. Grace is an empowerment. Yes, it covers sin.
Dennis Gingerich:But if you just keep sinning after you get saved, then there's issues. You need to knock it off. You need to quit it and take what the Bible that you have to do. Once you're saved, you're going to heaven. But people are like one saved, always safe. I don't believe that, because the Bible says in Matthew, chapter three, that he will know you by your fruit, and a tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut off. So once you're safe, there has to be fruit. You have to start living a holy life Now. Yes, you might slip up after you get saved, but you just go to God and you say I repent of my sin, I confess my sins and please forgive me. But there needs to be a transformation. It needs to be a process, because when you get saved, your spirit gets born again. But now it's your job To bring your body into subjection, because your body has Things it wants to do, like food. It craves for food. So maybe you gotta fast. Fasting is biblical, but there's things you have to do after you get born again to keep your fire.
Dennis Gingerich:Because in Matthew 25, there's a story of the 10 virgins who had oil in their lamp, and then it was a long time before the bridegroom came. The bridegroom came, five were foolish, five were wise, five brought extra oil and so when their oil ran out, they filled their lamps. And then the five foolish were can we borrow oil? No, we have our oil and it's not enough for you. So the five foolish go back to get more oil and the five wise had their lamps lit and then the bright groom came and they went in and when the five foolish came back it was too late.
Dennis Gingerich:That's a representation of the fire of God. You've got to keep it going Because if you let it go out, if you become lukewarm and then you turn around to go back to that preacher to get more fire, by the time you return it might be too late. If the rapture comes, it's too late. You got to keep it burning. There's got to be an advancement. Everything with God is forward, upward increase, growth.
Dennis Gingerich:It's unbiblical to not grow and that means in your relationship with God, your walk with God. Yeah, on the first day, second day of your salvation, you're not going to be at where you're going to be 20 years if you keep growing, but it's a growth. But if you're at the same place 20 years that you were on the day you got saved, there's issues. You're lukewarm and you need to get on fire for God, because God loves you too much to just leave you where you're at. He wants to take you from the downhill and set your feet on the rock to stay. He wants Christians to have more money so they can make greater impact than even Elon Musk. But most Christians don't have it because they become dry. They just want to be a little Christian. No, the first commandment in the Bible was be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and subdue it. Subdue means govern it, what elon musk. Once you get to that level now you gotta govern it. And then you keep going up talking about being fruitful.
Tammy Hershberger:um, two things. One, I learned something. They were talking about how, like, we need to be prosperous and and I think it was Barry Bennett, maybe, was saying how he was talking about people are like, well, I have enough for me. You know, I don't want to be selfish. And he said you actually are selfish because you are not getting anything. If you don't have enough for you, who are you going to help? If there's someone on the street that needs food, or a family that needs a home or whatever, or the church that needs help, right. And so he said you've got to get the money to you and if you can, if God can get it through you, he'll get it to you, right. And so stop believing that you just need just enough. I mean, I look at scriptures and I shouldn't name them, but I'm so new. There was scripture after scripture. I talked about prosperity exceedingly, abundantly, more than enough. That is the God we serve.
Dennis Gingerich:Ephesians 3.20.
Tammy Hershberger:Yeah, is that it?
Dennis Gingerich:Yeah.
Tammy Hershberger:Ephesians 3.20. Yeah, is that it? Yeah, thank you. I knew you'd save me on that one, but it's the fact. It's like you've got to stop living, and not enough, because there's too many people that are.
Tammy Hershberger:I grew up in such a poverty mentality of like we're always going to be in the trailer park, we're never going to get out of this, like this is who you are, you stay with us and I just always knew there was something better. And I look at like where I come from. You know, I went to college, but I went to a trade school, so I have and I went for general secretary and we own businesses. Now I'm like and we do well for ourselves, because God gets the glory for that, and that's the other thing. When you're doing well and you're not just barely surviving, your kids look like they're homeless and you're doing well, that is glory to God because you're going to. People are going to see that and when you help others, they see like you know my prayers for answer god, help me through you or whoever, and I'm gonna now get that glory to god, which is the point of it. There's scriptures that talk about that. So do you have anything, jones, you want to add on that?
Jonas Gingerich:how can you help someone if you're not overflowing yourself?
Dennis Gingerich:exactly yeah, and people, because we grew up the amish, believe in poverty. They actually think that's a way to heaven. You're glorifying god, but you know what that is? It's pride. And what does pride do? Pride goes before destruction. You can, you can. There's different ways to get into pride, but poverty is one.
Dennis Gingerich:Second corinthians, chapter 8, verse 9, says that christ became poor so that you might become rich. Oh, rich, yeah, I like rich. People hate that word, religion hates it. People might even criticize us on this podcast, but the Bible says rich, it says prosperity. Jesus did everything for you.
Dennis Gingerich:And how can he become poor? If people think he was poor, he wasn't poor? The Bible doesn't lie and it wouldn't say he became poor. If he was poor, his whole ministry, the people, the Roman soldiers at the cross, they gambled for his robe. You don't gamble for rags. You don't gamble for rags. You throw them in the fire and you burn them up.
Dennis Gingerich:It's not in the Bible, but some studies show that his robe was worse. In today's money it was a certain amount of the year's wages, but in today's money it would be like $180,000. That was the robe he was wearing that the soldiers gambled for. So you think, oh, he was poor? No, he wasn't. He had a treasurer, judas Iscariot, who betrayed him, and in those days nobody had a treasurer unless they had money, finances, to handle. But Jesus became poor when he went on to that cross. They stripped them of everything so that you can live in abundance, so that you can live and see the promises of god fulfilled in your life I remember uh copeland's people I don't know their names uh terry and his the husband, I think.
Tammy Hershberger:Anyway, they were saying they were doing a thing like this and they were talking about the script that talks about he opens the window of heaven and pours out a blessing so big that we can't contain it. Is that correct? But they said if you go back into like the Hebrew or whatever into the original script, it's floodgates of heaven. A I mean, I think when they open the floodgates at the mountain, at the dams, the water just pours out. It's not just a dribble and a dribble, it's like so much that's going to send you down the shore right, like that's the stuff we need to get the revelation of and that's something I'm learning about in Bible school right now is like we have this mentality of like not enough, lack poverty, and that is a mindset and that's where that's not the god I serve, because I can't help people living in the trailer park where I have barely enough for myself right.
Dennis Gingerich:Yeah, you can. You can't do something. It's like the bible says love your neighbor. Ask yourself if you don't love yourself, you can't love your neighbor. People try to to be humble. Oh, you know, I don't love myself.
Dennis Gingerich:Well you're unbiblical, because the Bible says love your neighbor as yourself and people. Just what do you call like the natural thing? People love themselves. They do, and it's not bad. They do and it's it's not bad, but it's just a natural habitation. When people look at a picture that's a group picture, they always only see them. How do I notice? Because on saturday I took pictures with some men and i's and they're like oh, look at me, I look ugly, whatever'm like. Why are you just seeing yourself? I see three people in the group, but I do look at myself too. So it's biblical to love yourself, because you first got to get filled up so that you can pour out.
Tammy Hershberger:Yes, we have a lot more to come back to. We're going to take a real quick pause and we'll be back in just a second. Okay, we are back. I want to talk to you guys about if you know someone, or if it's you and you have all this guilt and shame. How do we get rid of that and how do we move into freedom and purpose?
Dennis Gingerich:well, if jonas doesn't want to take it, I'll take it. Um, guilt and shame is literally just not understanding what god has done for you, because when you get saved, you get the righteousness of Christ. It's not your righteousness, it's Christ's righteousness comes into your life and what you have to do is forget about the past. Leave it behind, because that's something the devil uses to keep you bound. He keeps you by reminding you of your past. But do this instead Remind the devil of his past and remind him of his future, because either one is not great. He failed in the past. He put Christ on the cross. He thought that's going to be his biggest win, but it ended up to be his biggest loss. And we know at the end of the time he's going to end up in hell and burn for eternity. So just remind the devil of his past if he tries to bring guilt, shame, into your life.
Dennis Gingerich:And then John 8.32, whom the Son sets free is free indeed. Or wait, is that the one about the knowledge of the truth sets one free? There's 8.32 and 8.36. I could mix them up, but one of them says that who the Son sets free, jesus Christ is free indeed. So it's literally when you receive that, you become free. You become the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus.
Dennis Gingerich:That's a scripture, I just don't know the reference, but it's literally when you receive Christ you can let go of guilt and shame. And your mind is a powerful thing. Your mind is probably one of the biggest things you're going to battle in life. It's when you can get your mind aligned with the Word of God, meditate on the Word of God day and night, as Joshua 1.8 says, then your days will be long, you'll gain wisdom, knowledge and your life is going to feel different. All of a sudden, that weight, that guilt, that shame is just going to fall off like icing on a cake. It's just going to fall off, melt away and you'll be who the sun sets free is free indeed.
Tammy Hershberger:You got anything to add.
Jonas Gingerich:Yeah, romans 8.1,. There is now, therefore, no condemnation in those who are in Christ Jesus. So actually, when I first got saved now I'm saved and I'm starting to live this new life but I started getting convicted of all the evil things I've done in the past, especially things I've done to hurt people, and then people can't let go of it. So you still feel like it's your fault. And that was the biggest struggle that I faced after I got saved was to find out who I am in Christ and what Christ's already done for me. And that's how I got set free and that's why today you could cuss me out right here on this podcast. It's water off a duck's back, it's not going to bother me. I'll sit here and smile at you the whole time.
Jonas Gingerich:And another scripture that I just was reminded of at what, no, I have seen, which is extremely powerful Colossians 1.22. Yet now he has reconciled you to himself through the death of Christ in his physical body. As a result, he has brought you into his own presence and you are holy, righteous, blameless, and you stand before God without a single fault. He doesn't see a single fault in you once you've reconciled your life to him.
Dennis Gingerich:Yeah, because it's like you're washed. You're cleansed by the blood of jesus. It from the top of your head to the soles of your feet, everything you've done in the past. When you receive jesus christ floods out and it washes away. But condemnation is one of the devil's biggest things because it takes place in your mind. A great man of God, a great general in the face, by the name of Kenneth E Haken. He said that thoughts may come, but they're like birds flying over your head. Just let them fly over. Don't let them build a nest, because what he means by building a nest is when the devil brings a thought into your mind and then you dwell on it and then all of a sudden, it becomes a stronghold. No, if that happens, you got to get rid of it. The Bible says take every thought captive. So you got to take them captive. If that happens, and start feeding on the word of God, tell the devil. Your brain is like a computer. The more you tell it, the more it's gonna go to that thing. So if you give it the word of god, then it's gonna bring the word of god force, like it was in 2023 of december.
Dennis Gingerich:I was out skiing here in colorado and powder horn mountain is literally like what? An hour from here, and I took a tremendous hit. I was going down the mountain late afternoon and I had my dark ski goggles on and there's all these moguls on the hill. I had skied the hill before and I, I love speed. God, god is the god of speed, amen. But I, so I'm flying down this hill. I'm going 45 miles an hour. You may say, how do you know that? I was running a GPS tracker in my pocket on my phone so I know how fast I was going. And with all these moguls, it's a steep hill and you can normally, I could easily just sip down, but your skis start fluttering and when you try to slow down you can't easily, not easily you could have.
Dennis Gingerich:I was doing fine when I stayed confident, but I was picking up speed and all of a sudden it's like a panic attack from Satan. I could feel it as soon as I panicked. I went head over tea kettles, into the brush, into the trees, flying I land because the hill is steep Mountain hills are not like the average hill and I landed head first on my back, flying down the hill, hill and I hit my shoulder and my elbow slammed them against two trees and I lay there my head downhill, my skis up in the air. I had a ski one of my sticks under my one rib. I broke it when I hit myself and I'm lying there and I'm like I hurt. It felt like my collarbone was broken. My arm was hurting. I didn't know if I could get up because my skis are still on my feet.
Dennis Gingerich:And I know that when you're lying there with your head facing downhill, the blood rushes into your head and it'll kill you within like 15 minutes. So I know this and I'm like the thought of death literally flashed through my mind. But you know what that thought was not from God. Another thought came, a scripture came that was in my spirit. That said by the stripes of Jesus Christ, I am healed. And that was the first words out of my mouth. Were not, oh, I'm going to die, because I believe first words matter. I said by the stripes of Jesus, I am healed, I shall live and I shall not die. And then I started going after the devil. I'm like you, foul devil. You're not gonna have my life, you're not gonna have it today. By the stripes of Jesus Christ, I'm healed. Because I believe in healing, I believe in instant healing.
Dennis Gingerich:And then a ski patrol that I flew by, that thought I'm out of my ever loving mind, comes by and sees me. He's like, yeah, there's the nut that I, you know, I should have slowed him down, but he couldn't because I was out of control. But he comes by and he's like are you okay? And I didn't tell him that I'm hurt. I said I'm okay. Um, he's like you want help? I'm like, yeah, could you just help me up? And so he came by, he extended his ski, stick out so I can grab a hold of it. And I got up and then they left because I told them I'm okay, not because I was, everything was okay, but I told them by faith because I hate when doctors or anything like that. They go to the extreme. That's why I didn't tell them. It's not a lie to say you're okay because I wasn't dead.
Dennis Gingerich:But so I get up and I put my skis on. I'm like, oh, my one ski's broken. But what happened when I got up? The moment I stood up my shoulder which stopped me, by the way my head just missed a tree. It was like a three inch tree. My head just missed. It banked against my shoulder and my shoulder that felt like my collarbone was broken. When I stood up it was completely healed, no pain. My arm still had pain. It still hurt. But what did I do? I got on my skis. I skied the rest of the way down and then the ski lift was almost closing. But just to stick it into the devil's face and tell him that he failed, just like he did with my family, just like he's failing with you today. I got on the lift again with just one stick. My one arm is still hurting and I skied down the slope again, just to rub it in his face and tell him that he failed. He tried to take my life. It didn't work and days later you couldn't ever tell that anything ever happened to me. A lot of people. They would end up in the hospital for weeks.
Dennis Gingerich:But when you stand on the word of God and you have the word of God in you, there's healing power. You tap into what Christ did on the cross. He didn't take 39 brutal flesh eating, gouging stripes on his back for nothing. He did it for your healing. So no more sickness. Even if you break a leg, whatever, you can be healed. Today, you stand on the Word of God. Ephesians says when you've done all to stand, stand. Therefore, yeah, there's tons of immediate healing in the Bible, but when you don't get it immediately, you keep standing. Just like I got immediately healed in my shoulder but my arm didn't. But when I just stood on it three days later, everything was healed. And when I got back to Pittsburgh, nobody could ever tell that anything ever happened while I was on my trip.
Tammy Hershberger:I want to point out three things you said there. So one, you need to know the word of God. That's why you need to read your Bible and listen to sermons so that you can stand against the enemy when he lies to you. So one, you recognize that's a lie. And then, two, you know what the real truth, what the Bible says, what God's word is right, what's in you comes out of you so, like that you instantly knew no, I'm not, I'm not receiving that right.
Tammy Hershberger:I've got some cool stories from Barry Bennett I won't even go into, but he has those stories where no just comes out of his spirit of like, no, I am not receiving when in the beginning, about how, basically, the devil, you know, tells you all these lies. And I thought, if we're in the natural and we'll just say, jonas, this isn't you, but if you're a complete loser, schmuck, doesn't have a job, beats on your wife, you're not a good man, and you're telling me how awful I am Cause you're the devil in this case, am I going to be like, yep, I'm going to soak that in, because no, I know, you're a putz. The devil is such a schmuck. Why are we listening to this guy? He was thrown out of heaven. He was an angel that got kicked out because he's a greedy jerk, right. And so I'm thinking like, why do people just soak up what he says? He's such a loser, why do we listen to him? We need to listen to the power, the father right. Do you have anything to add, jonas?
Jonas Gingerich:well, he always, always disguises himself as God, you know, he slaps you on the back. God did that, you know. Actually, maybe I'll share this real quick. A few weeks ago, I met a guy actually who was hitchhiking, which turns out he's not homeless in that part of the country, which is very common to hitchhike places. He was telling me stories of uh, so there's four brothers and I'll just I'll go real quick. The oldest brother was an alcoholic. The doctor told him as, like you know, you need to stop drinking. It's devouring your body. He ended up dying of alcohol. The second one was drowned, got hit by a bus, threw him like 30 feet, killed him. The third one was drowned, got into a fight and got beat to death. And now he's the fourth one. He has two kids, a son and a daughter. The daughter's in prison. She has three kids, so the daughter's in prison In 2023, his son, which is about my age, overdosed on fentanyl and died that very same year.
Jonas Gingerich:His daughter's youngest son, his grandson, which I believe I don't know exact age probably between 4 and 10, he got hit by a car walking or whatever, and got killed. Now he's got his grandson, who's almost 18, got a granddaughter who's a little bit younger than that, living with him. The grandson's already on fentanyl and going on the drug trail, the granddaughter's going the same direction. The grandson won't even sleep in the house. He sleeps in an abandoned car, out in the grass. And so when I heard that, I was like, man, when I get you to your location, we're going to stop. I'm going to pray for you. Because he's a believer. He's like I don't know why God would do this. I'm like God did not do this. And so I prayed with him and I, you know, binded and broke everything I could. But I was only there for a few minutes, and shortly after I got there and I probably wouldn't have to say this, but his wife came to the door and was like he's got to go, he's got to go.
Jonas Gingerich:Your friend has to leave now and I'm like Interesting. But that's just. You know, most people have that image of God. They believe that God both makes you sick and he heals you. But why don't you tap into John 10.10 and explain that real quick?
Dennis Gingerich:Yeah, I mean God does not make you sick but he does heal you, just like we said in the beginning. But John 10. Thief comes to steal, kill and destroy. Something that came up in my spirit when he was saying this was the curse goes to the fourth generation, but the blessing of God goes to a thousand generations. That's why the devil works so hard to not let a family member turn around, because he knows what happened to my family, my older brother, jonas. He gets born again, saved, and now our entire family is saved. And now I went into Bible school and now I'm going out preaching the gospel, setting people free, getting people saved and pointing them to Jesus Christ.
Dennis Gingerich:The devil didn't want that to happen. That's why he works so hard and that's why he's working on that family. That family probably has something that that probably has something that he knows. If he loses that they're going to do great things for the kingdom of God. Because, literally, think of this what I'm doing right now if I go to Crusades, I'm going into the devil's territory and I'm taking his people and I'm bringing them into the kingdom of God, and he hates that, but he's a sore loser. Christ has given us all the power and all the authority over him and he's under our feet. So he knows, when you get the knowledge of the authority that you have in Christ, he can't do anything. And that family, they're just one step away from getting that.
Dennis Gingerich:I believe it's broken right now. I'm going to pray for him right now because I hate that spirit, just like that guy's wife came out. That's a demonic spirit because spirits know spirits. If she was just a person without, she would have done whatever but a spirit. Whenever a demonic spirit comes into the holy ghost, the spirit of god, it's like you gotta leave and people think, oh, what's a demon? A demon is a spirit that lives in a body. It manifests through a body. So'm going to pray for them right now.
Dennis Gingerich:I don't know if, but that spirit is going to get broken today. So, father, in the name of Jesus, I curse every demonic spirit, every demonic stronghold that's come under that family and I command them to leave in the name of Jesus, family, and I command them to leave in the name of Jesus, and I command the love of God, the knowledge and the power of God's word, the authority, to come into their lives. Let somebody come and preach the word to them, the uncompromising ly word of God that will set them free forever, that they will get the knowledge and they will drive the devil, sorry rear end clear out of their family. I command the grandson that's on drugs. I command him to be delivered, be set free in the name of Jesus. I command the whole family to be turned around in the name of Jesus Christ.
Tammy Hershberger:Amen, amen. I like it.
Dennis Gingerich:Jesus came to give you life and to give you life more abundantly.
Jonas Gingerich:Yeah, maybe we should even touch on that a little more, because I go into the homeless community sometimes to go soul winning and, as broken and low down as people are, they always believe that God's teaching them something. They always believe that God's supposed to one that makes sick, to one that heals, he's the one that curses, he's the one that blesses, he's the one that does evil and then turns around and does good. Why is it? Is it just bad doctrine? I mean, I personally believe that's what it is, because a lot of people teach them that I don't know why God's given me this cancer, but he's teaching me something.
Jonas Gingerich:I actually know this one family that the person's almost dying of cancer and this person believes that God has given them this cancer to be able to save their family, which is just ridiculous. And I see that everywhere I go. And it's so hard because when you're soul winning in a homeless community, you'd expect these people would be like, oh my gosh, there's help here. But no, they're like, yeah, yeah, god's teaching me something, you know, and I'm, I'm satisfied out here, I'm, I'm doing all right, you know I'm waiting for him to give me the official answer.
Tammy Hershberger:I mean, I just feel like the devil uses his lies because we all, as humans, want to blame something that I'm sick because of this or whatever. And what if you don't know the scripture of what you know? Devil comes to steal, kill, destroy. What do you got?
Dennis Gingerich:yeah, because what came to mind is because in massachusetts, chapter 8, when jesus cleansed the leper I'm gonna read this real quick because the word of god is powerful yeah, massachusetts, chapter 8 says, when he, jesus, had come down from the mountain, great multitudes oh, jesus witnessed one on one great multitudes followed him and behold, a leper came and worshiped him, saying Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean. Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean. Then Jesus put out his hand and touched him, saying put out his hand and touched him, saying I am willing Be cleansed. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed. When Jesus told the leper I am willing, he was telling the leper, he was telling you, he was telling me, he was telling everybody that I am willing to heal you. All you have to do is receive it.
Dennis Gingerich:The devil comes to steal, kill and destroy. But if you ever wonder if it's God's will to heal you, it is. If you ever wonder if it's God's will for you to be sick, no, it ain't. It's his will that you be healed. Like is it 3 John 2? That it says beloved above all, that I wish that you be in good health and prosper, just as your soul prospers. That's what God wants for you, but you have to receive it, one of the things that God did. There is a sovereignty to God, but he gave the people a choice. You can see it all throughout the Bible. He gave us a choice.
Dennis Gingerich:The Bible says in Deuteronomy I think it's 30, that today I have set before you life and death. But oh, that you would choose life. You can choose to serve the devil. You can choose to serve, to choose to serve the devil. You can choose to serve, to give into the devil. But you can also choose life, choose what God has. And that's why, if you are sick and you just give into sickness what the devil has for you, you won't be healed. You're choosing death and you need to change it around and say I will live and I will not die. Today I'm not dying, I'm going forward, I'm going upward, I'm going to get healed. I'm healed right now.
Dennis Gingerich:Because it's not a lie to say I'm healed when you're quoting the Bible, because the Bible says in Romans 4, 17, that call those things that be, not as though they are. You call them into existence. That's how faith works. Faith is really basis, the, the evidence of the, the unseen. It's there, but we just can't see it with our natural, natural eyes. But it basically faith. What faith does it is? It grabs the things from the invisible and it pulls it into the visible. So be encouraged no matter what you're going through, god is willing to heal you, to set you free I want to read something really quickly before we move on to the back section of our questions.
Tammy Hershberger:Um, talking about being qualified. So if you're sitting at home and you're saying I am not qualified because and then you list off the things, I want to read you some scripture. So 2 Corinthians 3, 5 says not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything for ourselves, but our competence comes from God. He made us competent as ministers of a new covenant. That means your ability and qualification comes from God, not yourself. Colossians 1.12 says giving joyful thanks to the father who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of his holy people in the kingdom of light. That means God has qualified you to be part of his kingdom.
Tammy Hershberger:Ephesians 2.8,. God saved you by his grace when you believed, for we are God's masterpiece. You are not some broken thing. There's a scripture. I don't know where it is, but it talks about he knit you in your mother's womb right, jeremiah. Jeremiah, I mean, he made you as a child. He put every hair on your head. He knows every hair on your head. So stop disqualifying yourself. 1 Corinthians 1.27. So stop disqualifying yourself. First, corinthians 127. But god chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise, so that no one may boast before him. God chooses the unqualified by the world's standards to the great things for his glory. And lastly, philip philippians 1 6, being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of christ jesus. So if god started something in you, he is faithful, he will finish it Right. Anything to add before?
Dennis Gingerich:we move on no. God is faithful and just to forgive you of all your sins.
Tammy Hershberger:I want to ask you really quickly, If you have someone, a niece, aunt, cousin, brother, that you're interceding prayer for, what does that look like for them? Because we can't receive it for them, but how do we? I mean, what does that look like?
Dennis Gingerich:You want to take it, jonas, you go first.
Dennis Gingerich:I mean the way I do it, especially for family members, is I pray like if they're backslidden. No, I mean healing. You basically just intercede, you pray to God, the healing scriptures declare them, over them, but let's say they're unsaved. The bible says in in uh john, chapter 4, verse 36 through 38, I think. The bible says that the, the harvest is ripe, but the laborers are few, and what happens sometimes, especially with family members, they don't listen to you because you're close, like this is my older brother.
Dennis Gingerich:If he was unsaved, backslidden, he probably wouldn't listen to me because he's he thinks I'm nuts and. But so what I do is I pray that the lord would send someone to witness to them, that they would listen to, because many times people listen to an outsider more than they listen to their immediate family or somebody that has influence in their life. If you pray all of a sudden, maybe the Holy Ghost will lead them in that direction, that they will witness to them, because some people yeah, in China they have angels appear to them and they've gotten saved. But the ultimate way is God sent somebody to them to witness what Jesus did on the cross.
Tammy Hershberger:Yes, god works through people right, and that's how he gets his work done. So, okay, we're going to take one more really quick break and then we have a few more things before we wrap this up. We'll see you in just a second. Okay, we are back. I want to talk to you guys about what it looks like to truly possess the promises of God and not just hear about it.
Dennis Gingerich:Jonah, do you got any scriptures on that one?
Jonas Gingerich:Yeah. 2 Corinthians 1.20,. For all the promises of God in him are yes, and in him, amen to the glory of God. For us, Hearing a promise isn't the same as owning it. If you can find it in the word, you can have it, but you have to find it in the word you. If you can find it in the word, you can have it, but you can but you have to take it by faith.
Dennis Gingerich:Yeah, because the bible says in uh isaiah 54, that he, uh, he blesses the fruit of your hand, the the work of your hand. Because people think prosperity is whatever you give in an offering and then you just wait for God to bring it. No, the harvest is ripe. You go and you harvest, you put your hand to the plow, and that's how you possess the promises. You have to work. The Bible says what he who doesn't work doesn't eat. The Bible actually despises lazy people, and if you're lazy, don't be lazy from today on, because I grew up hard working and then people are like oh, you're a workaholic, whatever, I actually would like to be a workaholic. God likes for you to work. Yeah, god has rest for you too, but our assignment on the earth is not to sit around and be lazy. Yeah, the promises of God was wells and enjoyment, but the ultimate thing, too, is to work for the kingdom of God. You have to have a purpose, and if your purpose is sitting on the couch eating potato chips, you are probably commit suicide, because that's where the devil comes into your mind. But when you're working, you're putting your hand to the plow, you're like I know the promises of God and you work towards them, then you will have them. You, when you put your faith on something and work towards it, because faith without works is dead. The Catholics know that. That's why they just do works. But you gotta have both. Faith without works is literally just saying you believe it. But you know what really proves that you believe something you put action towards it, like healing. If you don't put action to it, you probably won't even get healed, like for me, when I was up on that mountain. I got up and I acted like I'm healed. I started declaring it and then I acted like I skied down the hill, like I'm healed. I didn't just go slow, dripply walk, no, I skied. And that's what you have to do if you want to possess the promises of God, because there's many spiritually fat Christians in church. All they do is they come warm the pew, get fat spiritually and they do nothing with it. But God doesn't have that. God wants you to come to church and receive and then go out and produce. Put it into the world.
Dennis Gingerich:In your workplace, work as unto the Lord. When you work as unto the Lord in your job, when you're the best that you can be right where you're at. You will be amazed how quickly God promotes you, how quickly, even in your shop. Then you'll get a new shop Because people think, oh well, somebody just has to hand me money. No, when you work, god will bless you.
Dennis Gingerich:For an instance, I had this last year in Bible school. I put my faith out for $2,000 because I wanted to update my media equipment. Like I wanted a new phone because I was shooting my podcast on a phone and my phone was going bad. So I'm like, okay, I want $2,000. And then, literally like the next week, a lady reached out to me and was like oh, I have this project, you want to do it? It's building decks. Now I'm in bible school to go to ministry, but I did construction, so it's easy for me. I'm like sure. So I quoted her fifteen hundred dollars for the labor and now I'm believing for two thousand dollars. But that still doesn't discourage me because I'm like oh, this is a sign for God. God has opened this for me to get it. But I have to put in the work.
Dennis Gingerich:And then we finished a project and she hands me some extra money.
Dennis Gingerich:I didn't know how much. She's like I've been saving this and I've been wanting to give it to somebody, and I just feel to give it to you, and she's Catholic, she doesn't know what I know, and she had tried to get somebody else to do that project and it never worked. But then, all of a sudden, I put my faith on something and then she reaches out and boom, it works. And you want to know how much money that was that she gave me? It was $500 extra, so the amount was $2,000. So that's how you possess the promises you believe it and then you act on it. Anything God brings your way, because sometimes it looks like more work, but if you're not willing to put in the work, you won't have it. So possess it, because many people, people want to be Elon Musk but they don't want to put in the work he put in. Let me tell you, you won't get there by not putting your hand to the plow. You won't get there by not making sacrifices that he made.
Tammy Hershberger:I think too many people sit back and they're sitting on their couch and God, I need this and God I need that. And they're like they're sitting on their couch and God, I need this and God I need that, and they're just waiting for it to fall on their lap and I'm like that's not how it works. You have to get out and you know reach out, get, take the job, take the opportunities, take the business, whatever it is that God's bringing to you, if you know that's what his will is. I also think people don't become obedient in the fact that they're waiting, like was told. This is what they told me like a month ago, and I'm gonna do it. And so they made all these plans, close these things and made it happen.
Tammy Hershberger:And then I asked him where are you in that step? Oh, I'm still. I'm waiting on the Lord. I said I thought he gave you your answer. Yeah, but I need a little more direction. I said well, I thought the direction was clear when you ran with your pants on fire doing all these other things. And he's like wow, I didn't think about that. I was thinking he would tell me again. And I'm like no, the lord told you once you need to move now. Take a step and he'll meet you there, right?
Dennis Gingerich:yeah, because god, god is a god of. He likes obedience. Deuteronomy 28, where he lists all the blessings. It starts off if you obey the lord your god, um exodus 1526, a powerful healing scripture where he promises healing. If you diligently obey the voice of the lord your god and do what is right in his sight, then I will let none of these plaques that are on that I have put on the egyptians come near you, for I am the lord that that healeth thee. So it's like obedience late obedience is disobedience.
Dennis Gingerich:God will go to somebody else because the time is short and when he, if you want to be used by God, learn to act on it quickly. When he tells you to do something, if you're going to mess up, do it. Moving forward something. If you're going to mess up, do it moving forward. Quick obedience is what's going to propel you forward, because God's like oh, I can use them Now. They've proven to me that when I give them an assignment, they're going to do it, because sometimes people are like God tells them to do something, then they sit around. Well, he didn't tell me when, but he told you to do it. If he tells me to do something but he doesn't say when I expect to do it right away, I expect to get it done right away. And when you get rid of that dumb, everything has to feel let. If you want to feel let, I can buy you a big, giant ball of lead and I can place it right in your hands and you can feel let the whole time.
Dennis Gingerich:But sometimes you just gotta breathe realistic, use your mind, because the bible says he gave you the mind of christ, so he doesn't expect you to be an idiot. If he tells you to do something, he expects you to do it right away. It's like Jerry Seville One time God told him to sow a seed to somebody and then he didn't. And then he told him again he didn't. Then he told him a third time he didn't. And then he's like okay, god, I got the seed, I'm going right away. God's like no, don't go, somebody else has done it. Now you missed out on the blessing because you're late, you know. And then after that, I mean he was one of the most generous givers on the planet. He just hand out a hundred dollar bills to kids to bless them. But late obedience is still disobedience.
Tammy Hershberger:And that is so powerful because I think people need to hear that and it and I've heard people talk about but what if I miss it? I'm like well, god will meet you there. If you really thought you were hearing from him and you missed it a little bit, he'll help you, he'll get you through that and just be obedient. I found scripture 2 Corinthians 1.20, that says for all the promises of God in him are yes.
Dennis Gingerich:Does in him mean when it says yes it's or yes sorry, it says promises of god in him are yes, it means in christ.
Dennis Gingerich:Okay, because the bible says like when you receive him, christ abides in you. Now christ is actually sitting at the right hand of the father in heaven, but he sent the holy ghost who's in you, who lives and dwells in you. In the old testament, the holy ghost never lived in anybody. He came upon people. He still comes upon people. There's different coming upon somebody is different than living in them. But when you receive salvation, you actually the holy ghost lives in you. And the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost the three are one, so it's actually also Christ is living in you and that's what it means. So like if, if you're not born again, christ doesn't live in you. But when Christ lifts in you, then the promises are yes and amen.
Tammy Hershberger:Very good. Do you have anything else? To add Jonas to that? Okay, so it says so. If you've got this promise from God and it's been taking a long time and it's not happened yet, what can you learn during that waiting time?
Dennis Gingerich:I mean stand on the word of God, because my thing was always if the Bible is true, then it's true. If it's fake, I don't want it. But the Bible says when you've done all to stand, stand. Therefore, like my family, it took six years from the time that my older brother got saved until my parents left and got saved. But through that time, you know, yeah, the devil brought thoughts and it's never going to happen. But you keep standing. You keep standing on the word. Sometimes all you have is the word.
Dennis Gingerich:Sometimes your shield of phase is full of the fiery darts and your arm is heavy. It feels like it's falling down. Your armor is all battered up and it feels like you can't stand. Your legs are shaking. You've been standing, but the bible says stand. Therefore, pray to god for new strengths, because god will give it to you. When the bible says let the weak say I'm strong, so like, if you're feeling weak, say I'm strong because your words carry power, Isaiah 55, 11 says so shall my word be that goes forth out of my mouth. It shall not return void and it shall accomplish do the things that I please. God's word will never return void.
Tammy Hershberger:That's good. Do you have scripture, jonas?
Jonas Gingerich:actually I do. Hebrews 10 36 says when we continue in God's will, then we will receive all his promises yeah, you keep continuing and what are?
Tammy Hershberger:can you name off some of his promises really fast?
Dennis Gingerich:I mean the blessing, Blessing, healing, health, wholeness, prosperity. I mean great families and a joyful life. Peace joy no depression, no anxiety, because the Bible says in Nehemiah that the joy of the Lord is your strength. When you're not joyful, that means something's off in your life. That means usually when people aren't joyful, they're in sin or something. Something's going on because, as a born-again believer with christ in you all the problem you should be joyful. What do people do when they get radically safe?
Tammy Hershberger:they rejoice in the lord, they're so thankful to god and if you're in addiction and sin and that stuff and it's like you got a hole in your heart and you need the Lord. This is what you need. You need the word of God, you need what he's talking about. Um, what do you say to the people who are? You know they're stopping short of that fullness of God's promise. Like they're, they're there and then they just give up. Do they just up? Do they just okay, it's over. Throw the baby out the bath why it didn't work, or what you're saying?
Dennis Gingerich:it sounds like you just keep standing yeah, because kind of guard your heart right, don't let the devil in yeah, when you're getting paid on monday, the devil shoots his best shot. When it seems like everything's bad, he's fired his worst shot. So when you endure through that and you stand strong, then payday is right around the corner. So too many people just give up or they start. I think the biggest hindrance is they start speaking negative thoughts, they let the flesh come out of them. But when you stand on the word, you stay positive. You keep confessing what you want to see. You don't confess where you're at. You confess where you want to go and before you know it you're at. You confess where you want to go and before you know it it's over. And then you look back and you're like what the heck was I doing? Why was I thinking of giving up? I was this close.
Dennis Gingerich:And when you've gone through it you know what I mean. But if you're like, if it feels today like you're on the brink, like everything's against you, you have it feels that you can't endure anymore. Let me encourage you, stand. Therefore, let the weak say I'm strong, stand strong, hold up your shield of faith, which is the Ephesians, chapter 6, and keep on the garment of salvation, and your breakthrough is right around the corner of salvation and your breakthrough is right around the corner. It's probably so close that all you got to do is endure for one more minute and then confess the word of God, tell if you're sick, say I am healed by the stripes of Jesus. I am healed, I am living a long and healthy life, because the devil wants to take people out early. But the Bible promises a long and healthy life for those who are in Christ. So keep confessing the word, speak the word and your breakthrough is right there.
Tammy Hershberger:Yeah, I don't speak defeat. Speak the word. That's the difference. Did you have something to add?
Jonas Gingerich:Yeah, Galatians 6, 9. So let's not get tired of doing what is good At just the right time. We will reap a harvest of blessing. If we don't give up, you will receive your healing. And another thing Dennis was saying confess the right thing, but also thank God for it. You know I am healed, I am strong, but also say, Lord, I thank you that I've received my healing, I thank you that it's already done.
Dennis Gingerich:I praise you that I've received my healing. I thank you that it's already done. I praise you for it. Yeah, that's actually, that's very powerful and I do that. I just forgot you declare the word.
Dennis Gingerich:But then the highest level of faith is when you praise God that it's already done and you may say, well, it's not already done, it is in the spiritual realm, it's already done. And what you do is you just, you're just pulling it in, like Daniel, he was on a fast for 21 days. He was on a fast until he gets the breakthrough. But the Bible says in Daniel chapter I think it's 10, that on the first day that he prayed I already answered, answered. But there was a spirit when the answer was coming, when the angel was coming, the devil, one of his angels, was fighting him in in the, the heavenly realms, like in the, the atmosphere up here, because there's three different types of heavens and um. And then he had to send michael, the archangel, to come and kick his sorry rear end. And then it was 21 days until he came, but he answered him the first day. So your answer is on its way. And the devil.
Dennis Gingerich:So here's our phase words when you speak, it, it's done it might. It's already on its way. So you have to just stand firm and you will have it. So, like if Daniel would have just quit, if he would have started speaking negative, defeat All that, then the angels would have had quit. If he would have started speaking negative, defeat all that, then the angels would have had to go back, because the Bible says that the angels stand there ready to hearken at the word of God. So, but they can't. They, as soon as you speak the word, they take off on God's assignment to fulfill it. They take off on God's assignment to fulfill it, but then when you start speaking negative, they have to return. They can't keep coming when you start speaking contrary to the word of God, because now you've just deactivated them and they just go back to the Father.
Tammy Hershberger:Joyce Meyer had one time on one of her shows she was doing. She was talking about how, like her example, she was laying on the stage kind of like this, just sitting there like she's the angel, just kind of bored, and all of a sudden the guy starts praying and he pops up and he's like I'm going, and he starts going. And then the guy just started talking defeat and it's not happening. And then he's just like, oh, and he had to go back and he was like I was on my way. And then you just like, stop believing, so don't, don't you know? So that seed, like a farmer does, but then don't go tear up your garden after you've seeded or sowed the seed, because what's the point of that? That's really good.
Tammy Hershberger:Yeah, jonas and dennis, um, I want to. We kind of hit this next a little bit, but do you have any other scriptures, jonas, for? Um, what role faith and obedience plays? I think we've hit it pretty good. I do have James 2.17. It says in the same way faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
Jonas Gingerich:That's kind of what you just said Do you have anything else, Jonas? I just had a note that I was looking at after what you were saying Don't abort the harvest while you're still in the soil.
Tammy Hershberger:That's good. Yeah, yeah, um. Okay. The last question um, how do you encourage someone who feels like they're on the edge of breakthrough, but they're still just in the wilderness?
Dennis Gingerich:I mean, just stand there for, be encouraged, listen to other people that have come out like, listen to other people that have come out like the testimony of my family, listen to testimonies that will encourage you. Because revelation, chapter 11, verse 12 or is it 12, 11, whichever one of the two? It says they overcame them by the word of the, by by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimonies and they did not love their lives, even unto the death. I just love that because I don't love my life, like if I die today, I die today but I'm not going to. But I come with that mindset. But testimonies are powerful. That's why, even throughout the Bible, that's why they recorded all the miracles, all the miracles in the gospels Matthew, mark, luke and John that they recorded. Those aren't even close to all the miracles that Jesus did. But doing, listening to other people, how they came out, that will build your faith. Because people say, oh, I'm just going to pray for more faith. No, you don't get more faith by praying. It's unbiblical.
Dennis Gingerich:The Bible says in Romans 10, 17, that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Faith is not built by praying. Faith is built by hearing the word and hearing the word of God. Faith is not built by praying. Faith is built by hearing the word and hearing the word of God. So when you hear what God did through other people's lives, how he turned their life around, you'll be encouraged and it's going to. You'll be strong Because I'm not going to lie Sometimes when you're standing it seems like everything is against you, but then you hear how somebody else got through and then it's like you just get a new tank of fuel and you're like I can do this, I can stand, and then your breakthrough is right there. Moses was in the wilderness for 40 years. He stuttered, he couldn't even speak right, and then he came and delivered the Israelites out of Egypt. If he wouldn't have kept standing, we wouldn't have what we have today.
Tammy Hershberger:Yeah, I mean this is so worldly. But we heard a pastor one time talk about this and he was saying like wouldn't, we wouldn't have what we have today. Yeah, I mean, I just this is so worldly. But I we had a pastor one time talking about this and he was saying like when you order something I need I don't know shoes and I ordered them from well, that's not a good example. I need something from Amazon and I order it on my phone and I'm like okay, I got my new phone coming. It's going to take five days to run around in a panic. I need a phone. I need a phone. I got to go look at phones. No, because I already ordered it. It's coming. I'm going to just let it go now because I'm away from my phone. If we can have that much faith on Amazon, can we not have it in God, right?
Dennis Gingerich:Yeah, because one of the biggest forms of faith is, yeah, you declare the word of God. But then it's also like know that it's done. Jesus, in the midst of the storm, he was sleeping in the boat and then he rebuked the disciples. When he got up, for little faith and all he did was stand up, rebuke the storm. And it was done. So, like when you know that, you know that's when you're full in faith, and then you just let it go.
Tammy Hershberger:Trust it, yeah. And then I think if you have a testimony, you need to share your testimony with people around you and the people that are struggling, because we all have them and we think sometimes we're disqualified, we don't have any value, that's not going to help anyone, but that is the very thing that might build someone up to think it happened for you, it can happen for me.
Dennis Gingerich:Yeah, and you even get encouraged by sharing your own testimony, and it's biblical to share your testimony.
Tammy Hershberger:Jonas, do you have anything else?
Jonas Gingerich:Yeah, back to Colossians 1.22. Actually, believe that you are righteous, you are holy in God's sight, and if you're not, you will be given that opportunity here shortly to get right with God. In Colossians 1.21, it clarifies that. It says this includes those who were once far away from God. So if you were once far away from God and you've been reconciled to God, then these promises are for you, and if you're not right with God yet, then in a few moments Evangelist Dennis will give you that opportunity.
Dennis Gingerich:Yeah, we do these podcasts, but to benefit you. And if you're not right with God? Today, you're saying I hear everything. You're saying I like it, but I'm not living the way that I could or should. I'm living a life of sin. You might even be living with your girlfriend right now and you're backslidden. But you're saying I want to get right with God. If you're living with your girlfriend, get saved and then move out until you get married. But you're saying well, how can I do this?
Dennis Gingerich:Sometimes you have to sacrifice for Christ a little in the beginning, because the devil comes at you any way he can to try and discourage you from doing it. But then it comes full circle and there's one story the one lady. She got saved and then she came back and told her husband and he's like, well, if you're going to do this church stuff, I won't be married to you anymore. And he divorced her and they had a little granddaughter. And then that granddaughter went to Bible school and now her and she met her husband there and they were pastors and they have four boys. Their four boys are all preachers of the gospel and now 30-some grandchildren are preachers of the gospel. The devil tried to get her discouraged where her husband left her, because he knew if that little girl goes to Bible school, there's going to be a whole generation of preachers that are going to disrupt his kingdom. But she stood through it and look at it now. She won't regret it.
Dennis Gingerich:So if that's you today, if you're saying I've never made Jesus Christ the Lord and Savior of my life, or I once did, but I'm living lukewarm and I need to come back into relationship with God. I need to get right with God. I want you to pray this prayer wherever you're at. I want you to lift your hands as a sign to surrender to God and I want you to say this from the bottom of your heart. I want you to say it nice and loud. You're not talking to me. I'm just leading you in a prayer, because some people have never prayed before, but you're talking directly to God.
Dennis Gingerich:So I want you to close your eyes, lift your hands and say this from the bottom of your heart Say Dear Lord Jesus, I repent of my sin. Wash me, cleanse me of all my sins. Jesus, I believe in my heart that you died and you rose again on the third day from the grave. I receive you as my Lord and Savior into my life today and I thank you that I'm on my way to heaven and I'm saved. I'm born again and I'm going to live the rest of my life for you In Jesus name, amen. If you just prayed that prayer, I want you to go to DennisGingrichorg and click the first button that says I just got saved, and I want you to fill out that form so that I can send you some stuff, because I want to know that you prayed that prayer. It's like sharing your testimony. Let us know that you prayed that prayer.
Tammy Hershberger:And welcome to the family. You are now a brother and sister to all of us in Christ, amen that's great. Okay, so to end this, we want to talk one more time about the revival happening here in Grand Junction. If you're in the area, tell them about it one more time, please yeah.
Dennis Gingerich:So tonight, um through Sunday night we're gonna do tonight at 7 pm. We're doing doing three days of revival. It's starting tonight. We're going to have free food for everybody 7 pm, so you can come straight from work. And then we're going to do Saturday, 10 am and 7 pm. Sunday, 10 am and 7 pm. These are going to be powerful services. I'm going to be preaching all the night services and then my friend, pastor Baba Boul, bulas, from all the way from st louis, missouri, is going to come and be there. So it's going to be at the marriott hotel in grand junction, 765 horizon drive, and we'd love for you to be there. Also, if you want to be a part, if you want to volunteer or you want to donate, you can go to dennis gingrichministriescom and you can click on volunteer or you can click on on the give now button if you want to support it. So thank you and god bless you yeah, come on out.
Tammy Hershberger:We thank you all for listening to this podcast. Uh, remember to like, share, subscribe, send it to anyone that you know that might be hurting or might want to hear it, and we hope to see you tonight in grand junctionction. Thank you everyone. Thanks, guys for coming on.
Dennis Gingerich:Thank you.
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